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	<title>Comments on: What&#8217;s so bad about teaching men not to rape?</title>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>https://mattblair.ca/2013/03/25/whats-so-bad-about-teaching-men-not-to-rape/#comment-10801</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:31:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, Chris! Lots of food for thought here. I&#039;ll be sure to check out the link, and I hope everyone else reading this (which hopefully includes nobody who found the page by Googling &quot;Matt Blair rapist&quot;) will do the same.

I get those resentments, sure. There&#039;s some exclusionary thinking in the fringes of feminist thought that I don&#039;t agree with for those reasons, just as there&#039;s a wealth of ugliness among the men&#039;s rights crowd and similar backlash movements.

One would like to think that neither side of the debate would be judged by its worst representatives, and I think the sort of sharing you&#039;ve done here goes a long way toward preventing that. So again, thanks!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Chris! Lots of food for thought here. I&#8217;ll be sure to check out the link, and I hope everyone else reading this (which hopefully includes nobody who found the page by Googling &#8220;Matt Blair rapist&#8221;) will do the same.</p>
<p>I get those resentments, sure. There&#8217;s some exclusionary thinking in the fringes of feminist thought that I don&#8217;t agree with for those reasons, just as there&#8217;s a wealth of ugliness among the men&#8217;s rights crowd and similar backlash movements.</p>
<p>One would like to think that neither side of the debate would be judged by its worst representatives, and I think the sort of sharing you&#8217;ve done here goes a long way toward preventing that. So again, thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
		<link>https://mattblair.ca/2013/03/25/whats-so-bad-about-teaching-men-not-to-rape/#comment-10800</link>
		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ll take a stab at it in the vein of friendly debate and the exchange of ideas.  I think a lot of male backlash against feminist slogans stems from the Brownmiller quote defining rape as:  

&quot;a conscious process of intimidation by which all men keep all women in a state of fear.&quot;

In particular, it&#039;s the use of the word &quot;all.&quot;  You, Matt Blair, are consciously using rape to keep all women in fear.  It states that the natural state of Matt Blair is that of a rapist.  How does that make you feel?  Do you want to engage in the discussion or do you want to turn your back and walk away from that attack?

It&#039;s that the aggressive language paints men as naturally evil.  They feel attacked and when attacked, people disengage at best, and at worst, attack back. 

Now that&#039;s a load of crap.  There&#039;s a difference between &quot;Teaching men not to rape&quot; and &quot;Not teaching men to rape&quot;  Rape is a learned behaviour.  We teach it from early on in life, when we routinely disregard consent with our friends and families in front of our children.  We do it when we pile more potatoes on someones plate even though they said &quot;That&#039;s enough&quot;  We do it when we sneakily fill someone&#039;s wine glass when their head is turned.  We do this in front of our kids every day. Men and Women.

Now there&#039;s a whole lot more to the power dynamic than that, but it all starts when we teach our children the consent is optional at the dinner table.  And this starts well before there&#039;s any sexual interest.

We don&#039;t need to teach men not to rape per se.  We need to raise them in a culture of consent from the very beginning.  The end result is the same, and the language is inclusive, rather than exclusive.  


To that end, I suggest you go here: http://igg.me/at/creating-consent-culture-teacher-tools

(Note: I make no supposition that the person behind this worthwhile project would agree with what I wrote.  She might, she might not.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll take a stab at it in the vein of friendly debate and the exchange of ideas.  I think a lot of male backlash against feminist slogans stems from the Brownmiller quote defining rape as:  </p>
<p>&#8220;a conscious process of intimidation by which all men keep all women in a state of fear.&#8221;</p>
<p>In particular, it&#8217;s the use of the word &#8220;all.&#8221;  You, Matt Blair, are consciously using rape to keep all women in fear.  It states that the natural state of Matt Blair is that of a rapist.  How does that make you feel?  Do you want to engage in the discussion or do you want to turn your back and walk away from that attack?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s that the aggressive language paints men as naturally evil.  They feel attacked and when attacked, people disengage at best, and at worst, attack back. </p>
<p>Now that&#8217;s a load of crap.  There&#8217;s a difference between &#8220;Teaching men not to rape&#8221; and &#8220;Not teaching men to rape&#8221;  Rape is a learned behaviour.  We teach it from early on in life, when we routinely disregard consent with our friends and families in front of our children.  We do it when we pile more potatoes on someones plate even though they said &#8220;That&#8217;s enough&#8221;  We do it when we sneakily fill someone&#8217;s wine glass when their head is turned.  We do this in front of our kids every day. Men and Women.</p>
<p>Now there&#8217;s a whole lot more to the power dynamic than that, but it all starts when we teach our children the consent is optional at the dinner table.  And this starts well before there&#8217;s any sexual interest.</p>
<p>We don&#8217;t need to teach men not to rape per se.  We need to raise them in a culture of consent from the very beginning.  The end result is the same, and the language is inclusive, rather than exclusive.  </p>
<p>To that end, I suggest you go here: <a href="http://igg.me/at/creating-consent-culture-teacher-tools" rel="nofollow">http://igg.me/at/creating-consent-culture-teacher-tools</a></p>
<p>(Note: I make no supposition that the person behind this worthwhile project would agree with what I wrote.  She might, she might not.)</p>
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